For every one verse that might seem to hint at a pre-Trib Rapture there are three or four verses that unambiguously contradict it with many other scriptures warning us to be prepared to be persecuted during that time. The most dramatic and bold are spoken by Jesus Christ himself while preparing his disciples to understand how to determine when he would be returning, what to expect would be happening to them at that time, and the importance of being able to endure to the end so as to be ready and waiting for him.
"As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? What is the sign of your coming, and of the end of the age?” Jesus answered them, “Be careful that no one leads you astray. For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will lead many astray. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you aren’t troubled, for all this must happen, but the end is not yet. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; and there will be famines, plagues, and earthquakes in various places. But all these things are the beginning of birth pains. Then they will deliver you up to oppression and will kill you. You will be hated by all of the nations for my name’s sake. Then many will stumble, and will deliver up one another, and will hate one another. Many false prophets will arise and will lead many astray. Because iniquity will be multiplied, the love of many will grow cold. But he who endures to the end will be saved. This Good News of the Kingdom will be preached in the whole world for a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come ... there will be great suffering, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever will be. Unless those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved. But for the sake of the chosen ones, those days will be shortened. Then if any man tells you, ‘Behold, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘There!’ don’t believe it. For false christs and false prophets will arise, and they will show great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the chosen ones. Behold, I have told you beforehand. If therefore they tell you, ‘Behold, he is in the wilderness,’ don’t go out; or ‘Behold, he is in the inner rooms,’ don’t believe it. For as the lightning flashes from the east, and is seen even to the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be. ... But immediately after the suffering of those days, the sun will be darkened, the moon will not give its light, the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken; and then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky. Then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. He will send out his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together his chosen ones from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other. Matt 24:3-31 (WEB)
It seems preposterous to read the above bold clear dramatic and precise statements of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ the Son of God and disregard them by inventing a system of doctrine that creates two separate groups of "chosen ones" - Jews vs Gentiles, then add in a "secret coming" before the "the Tribulation" that is only for the "Gentile Church dispensation", to escape the suffering and persecution because they are His church and bride when the scriptures clearly teach there is no such distinction in the Body and Church of Jesus Christ.
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring and heirs according to promise." Gal 3:28-29
Additionally there is no distinction between Jew and Gentile. In fact it is the Gentiles who are brought into the promises to the Jews. We are not separate and special. On the contrary we have been grafted into them! In order for that to be a fact they will be included with us and us with them together as one.
"For I speak to you who are Gentiles. Since then as I am an apostle to Gentiles, I glorify my ministry, if by any means I may provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh, and may save some of them. For if the rejection of them is the reconciling of the world, what would their acceptance be, but life from the dead? If the first fruit is holy, so is the lump. If the root is holy, so are the branches. But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the root and of the richness of the olive tree, don’t boast over the branches. But if you boast, remember that it is not you who support the root, but the root supports you. ... They also, if they don’t continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. For if you were cut out of that which is by nature a wild olive tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree, how much more will these, which are the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?" (Rom 11:13-24 WEB)
The pre-trib doctrinal separation goes even further by negating the written word given to us by the power of God in Christ Jesus as revealed by His Holy Spirit through His chosen Apostle Peter for this very purpose to bring both Jews and Gentiles into His body and church and make them one in His Son. Please read both chapters to grasp the dramatic public declaration God chose to make to settle this matter once and for all within His church. There is no distinction between Jew and Gentile.
(Acts 10 & 11 WEB) "Cornelius said, 'Four days ago, I was fasting until this hour; and at the ninth hour, I prayed in my house, and behold, a man stood before me in bright clothing and said, ‘Cornelius, your prayer is heard, and your gifts to the needy are remembered in the sight of God. Send therefore to Joppa and summon Simon, who is also called Peter. He is staying in the house of a tanner named Simon, by the seaside. When he comes, he will speak to you.’ Therefore I sent to you at once, and it was good of you to come. Now therefore we are all here present in the sight of God to hear all things that have been commanded you by God.' Peter opened his mouth and said, 'Truly I perceive that God doesn’t show favoritism; but in every nation he who fears him and works righteousness is acceptable to him. The word which he sent to the children of Israel, preaching good news of peace by Jesus Christ - he is Lord of all - you yourselves know what happened, which was proclaimed throughout all Judea, beginning from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with him. We are witnesses of everything he did both in the country of the Jews and in Jerusalem; whom they also killed, hanging him on a tree. God raised him up the third day and gave him to be revealed, not to all the people, but to witnesses who were chosen before by God, to us, who ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead. He commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that this is he who is appointed by God as the Judge of the living and the dead. All the prophets testify about him, that through his name everyone who believes in him will receive remission of sins.' While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell on all those who heard the word. They of the circumcision who believed were amazed, as many as came with Peter, because the gift of the Holy Spirit was also poured out on the Gentiles. For they heard them speaking in other languages and magnifying God. Then Peter answered, “Can anyone forbid these people from being baptized with water? They have received the Holy Spirit just like us.' He commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ."
Next, one needs to ask, how can one of the books being used to separate these two groups contain within it the revelation that Jews comprise the "bride" who will abide forever within the one and only "holy city, Jerusalem" where they will dwell forever with the Son, and upon its foundations are written the names of the "Jewish" apostles and on it's gates are written the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel? Is it not us the gentiles who are being "grafted" into a Jewish promise and blessing? The promise to Abraham that he believed and it was "accounted to him as righteousness"? That same "righteousness" accounted to those of us who believe on his seed "Jesus Christ, the Son of God"?
"One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls which were loaded with the seven last plagues came, and he spoke with me, saying, “Come here. I will show you the bride, the Lamb’s wife.” He carried me away in the Spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me the holy city, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, having the glory of God. Her light was like a most precious stone, like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; having a great and high wall with twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written on them, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel. On the east were three gates, and on the north three gates, and on the south three gates, and on the west three gates. The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them twelve names of the twelve Apostles of the Lamb. (Rev 21:9-14 WEB)"
Here is a link to a scriptural review of 10 reasons why many Christians do not believe in a pre-trib rapture. Whole books have been written on the subject you can research if you have an open mind and heart.
Considering the scriptures with the warnings given above. What if you are wrong about a "pre-trib rapture"? What if we are going into a time of suffering much worse than Nazi Germany in WW2? What if what we will be experiencing is what happened to the Jews back then yet much worse? Look at the harm you may have done to yourself, your families, new believers and the saints by not preparing them for this possible reality. Imagine the shock and disillusionment so many would experience. Especially the new believers and children. Could something like this contribute to the prophecy of the "great falling away" at the end of the age?
Wouldn't it be wise for us to embrace the instructions of Jesus about being ready to endure to the end during severe persecution? Wouldn't it be scriptural, honest and loving to warn and teach the saints to expect to be prepared to patiently endure to the end? Jesus never held back the truth to try and hold followers to Him. He laid it out in no uncertain terms what would be required of them. On occasions like that, after hearing him teach the truth, some complained that what he taught was too hard a teaching and would stop following him. He always taught we would have to be ready to lay down our life for our identification with Him, our testimony of Him and even simply for our faith and love of Him and the truth. When we do this from our heart, with the help of the Spirit of God, saturated in the Word of God, we certainly would be ready to leave at any moment with nothing attaching us to this life to hinder our being "caught up" to enter immediately into His presence.
Followers of Jesus Christ from the first ones, then throughout history, right up to the tens of thousands right now in Africa, Middle East, Far East, China, Russia, India, Indonesia, North Korea and all around the world have not been "raptured" so they can escape persecution of the worst kinds. Are they not part of the Body of Christ? Are they somehow less worthy than us? Why would we think in the USA that we could not possibly experience similar persecution and suffering at some time in the near future? The scriptures teach if we experience persecution and suffering it is for our perfection. It is intended as a gift to receive a more perfect resurrection. We should never seek it but if it is God's will then we are to embrace it with the strength He gives us. We are to overcome by our love, testimony and faith in Him. We are to bless and forgive those who persecute and even kill us and our loved ones in the hope of their redemption. He promises us to not concern ourselves with what to say at that time as He will give us a wisdom to speak His message. I encourage you to read read Foxe's Book of Martyrs for a historical account of the continual waves of persecution upon those who passed this faith down to us and how they responded in that faith. There is also a pdf version online here.
Yes! It would be wise to prepare ourselves too. We will need to prepare our hearts, minds and spirits to patiently persevere, so that we can continue in faith and endure to the end. Jesus never taught a "easy way out" when following Him. He taught and exampled the opposite. So did the Apostles, the first believers and many generations after them. We have no other "Christian" example given to us.
Based on the Signs fulfilled in the past 4 years it appears we may already be in the end of this age tribulation time period. The decisions we are making right now are Tribulation level choices of whom and what we really believe in and will serve. Do we believe and follow men and women of this age and world system? Who call themselves scientists, doctors, psychologists, politicians, patriots, preppers, even prophets, theologians, teachers and clergy with man made degrees? Do they and we believe in and follow this world and the love of it, while trying to preserve our life, jobs and property? Or, will we by the laying down of our life in faith and testimony to the Son of God and follow Him who is seated at the right side of His Father in Heaven? We are commanded to look up and listen to Him. Follow Him. Love Him. Obey Him.
Please, look at this sign: the great and wonderful Sign of the Woman giving birth to a son that appears in the stars of heaven has already occurred. It was fulfilled in 2017 on September 23rd for all to see. Sign of Revelation 12
Please, look at these signs: The White Horse judgment began on the official day 3-11-2020 that WHO declared Covid 19 a pandemic which was exactly 900 days from the official date of 9-23-2017 when the Sign of the Woman giving birth to a son in the heavens was fulfilled.
You can also review the year 2017 in the section "Additional end times timeline events" and in " Who are the 8 kings in the book of Revelation" section under Trump to see more details of the imagery that identify this time period with the White Horse prophecy.
Please, prayerfully ask yourself if you are in denial about the time we are living in. Do you really think that the current expanding mandate by many large corporations, governments, government agencies, even the US military to trust and obey them to submit and take the experimental gene altering drug in order to work, buy and sell inside their world system means nothing at all? Have you forgotten that to "trust and obey" equals worship when we follow Jesus. We sing hymns to Him with this understanding. Do you not hear the Spirit and the Word sounding the alarm? The decision to submit to the "jab" is irreversible. It can not be undone. That drug will change and mark you and your body for the rest of this life ... and maybe the next? We are called to come out of this fallen world system, to not take it's marks, to not love the things of this world, rather to love God our Father and Jesus Christ His Son with all our heart, letting go of our possessions, even our bodies. These are all things that will perish that we never really owned anyhow. We are called to receive a greater and better spiritual home with a new body and possessions that last forever because their foundation and maker is our Heavenly Father.
Everyone interpreting end times prophecy and our being "caught up" needs to humble themselves maintaining heart level honesty before God and men about predicting the timing of future events. No one but God and those to whom He reveals every specific detail of the events that are written in the scriptures, exactly in the order they will be fulfilled, will get it all correct. Do we know anyone like that? Did even the Apostle's claim to be able to do that? It would seem likely that those who claim to be able to do so today with all their charts and mens interpretations may be of the group we were warned about would come. Look at how many centuries the Book of Revelation has been studied by "bible scholars" within all sects, denominations and nationalities within the church, yet there is NO consensus or complete agreement on any chapter of the books and related scriptures.
We are called to be followers of Jesus Christ - not teachers. "But you are not to be called Rabbi (Rabbi means teacher), for one is your teacher, the Christ, and all of you are brothers. Call no man on the earth your father, for one is your Father, he who is in heaven. Neither be called masters, for one is your master, the Christ". (Matt 23: 8-10). Our feet are on the ground and we are living in this age right now. We have been given the Spirit of God to guide and protect us. We have the Word of God in our hearts and minds. Our Spirit within calls out Abba Father to the ONE true God and we know and are known by His Son Jesus Christ. We have the spiritual gifts, resources and ability to see and understand the signs of the times we are living in without having to go find a "teacher". This principle also applies to what I am sharing with you on this website. I am just one brother sharing what I understand with others. Take everything to Him. Ask Him. Listen to Him. Obey Him. That is what this website is meant to do. To challenge you to wake up if need be and to look up! To lay hold of your birth right. You are called to enter the Throne Room of Grace and ask Him yourself. We should look up to Him and seek His understanding and will for our life. That is what Jesus commanded us to do.
In the coming months and years, we will each individually need to be strong and able by God's grace to stand alone if need be. To lay down our life for Him even if we find ourselves in prison, a confinement or work camp or on our way to execution. The teachers may not be there with us. Our pastors may not be there with us either. Some may have betrayed us. Yet, we are never left alone by God! Jesus Christ the Son of God is always with us, within us and before us. We should be sure we have developed the ability to listen to the Spirit of God within us while constantly filling ourselves with the Word of God and spiritual hymns and songs, while we are freely able to do so. These spiritual resources will help nourish and strengthen us now and when we find ourselves persecuted, alone and tested.
Let's remember back to the first coming of the Son of God almost 2000 years ago. The night he was born only three groups understood and showed up at some point in time to that event. Angels from heaven, who came singing His praises while telling the shepherds where to find the babe. The shepherds were poor and outcasts of the religious system of the day, considered common working people, sinners and unclean, yet they were personally invited from heaven to come and worship Him. Then there was that strange "unorthodox" dangerous group from a far off land, the Magi who had open hearts and searching minds that were able to observe and understand the signs of their time, possessing gentle generous hearts, desiring to come and worship the promised Jewish King. Later at the Temple, the center of all Jewish worship and religion only one elderly man and woman privately recognized who he was. No Rabbi's, no teachers, no scribes, no priests, no Pharisees, no bible scholars showed. They did not believe and understand the signs of their age. Later in Jesus ministry he rebuked them for this as they still could not see and understand that he was their messiah. Yet they had the scriptures that told them the exact dates and feasts. They had created their own timelines and belief systems and held them in place. They taught their version of how the messiah would appear, what he would do and who he would be. Those teachings and heart desires for the manifestation of their own version of messiah caused them to reject and crucify the very one they claimed they were waiting for. The point is this ... let's not deceive ourselves into thinking that our religious generation could not make the same kind of error about the fulfillment of scriptures and the next coming of the Son of God. Jesus himself warned: "When the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?" Luke 18:8.
Let us humble ourselves before God. Let us go to Him every day. Let us fast when we can and pray many times each day. Let us read the scriptures and ask Him for faith to understand the signs. Seeking most of all to have a heart and life that is prepared to hear Him, to love Him and to serve Him, no matter how the timeline unfolds, to the very end. Whether that end is through the death of this body or being "caught up" on that day to meet Him in the clouds!
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